A busy day out
Thanks to KE for his inspiration and advice.

Well after faffing about for ages I eventually got access and explored the rather trashed but lovely Whittingham.
My exit was a comedy, had to wait for 45 minutes when I noticed security sitting right near entry point, then as I was about to exit the perimeter fence a big alsation dog came bounding across to me - I thought - Busted!! then I noticed two folk walking there dog and it then turned into a fun bit where I slowly edged round a tree trunk so they couldnt see me as they passed - I got away with it too.
Then on way back to my car I managed to skewer my leg on an rusty bit of metal fencing so a night in A&E - one tetanus jag and antibiotics later.
Glad I got to see this place.